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pingou 2 hours ago [-]
Why not regulate more to prevent abuse? Although I am not sure how stressful it is for the horses to work in those conditions, in a congested city.
Surely there are more deaths with vehicles.
Meanwhile billions of animals are raised and killed in atrocious conditions every year.
cucumber3732842 2 hours ago [-]
You can't regulate away abuse that isn't happening without writing rules that cause some stupid enough to cause pushback consequences elsewhere. Also it might start a regulatory turf war depending on how the state of NY claims such things.
These conditions are a literal walk in the park compared to pulling a chord of wood off road in the rain or the 90deg sun because winter's coming and fuel must be stocked regardless of weather and the other "real work" these animals were meant for. The horses doing these jobs are borderline pet animals that have a job to subsidize themselves avoid the hoofed equivalent of a working dog that tears things up from boredom. Doesn't surprise me that they keel over on the job sometimes. Horses are both stupid and fragile.
The vibe I'm getting here is "sir the latest poll says you're losing the crazy cat ladys" "ok fine, ban the carriages and call it an animal safety thing and see if that gets them back"
Unless there's overwhelming public interest or overwhelming industry interest/corruption the government almost never takes it upon itself to regulate minutia like this, the downside is just not worth it unless you think you can pander to some demographic.
ATMLOTTOBEER 26 minutes ago [-]
It’s an overwhelming public interest, and it’s not an animal cruelty thing: it’s like 100 people running a business on public land, where the externality is congestion in the lower loop, and horse shit strewn on the ground.
cucumber3732842 3 minutes ago [-]
Oh piss off with the hand wringing. National defense. Health, cleanliness and sanitation, having effective courts, those are "overwhelming public interests". Some tourist attraction horses in the park is not an "overwhelming public interest".
Congestion in the lower loop? Rofl. It would be the same without the horses. Hire a guy with a shovel and a rolling trash can to deal with the horse shit.
Meanwhile billions of animals are raised and killed in atrocious conditions every year.
These conditions are a literal walk in the park compared to pulling a chord of wood off road in the rain or the 90deg sun because winter's coming and fuel must be stocked regardless of weather and the other "real work" these animals were meant for. The horses doing these jobs are borderline pet animals that have a job to subsidize themselves avoid the hoofed equivalent of a working dog that tears things up from boredom. Doesn't surprise me that they keel over on the job sometimes. Horses are both stupid and fragile.
The vibe I'm getting here is "sir the latest poll says you're losing the crazy cat ladys" "ok fine, ban the carriages and call it an animal safety thing and see if that gets them back"
Unless there's overwhelming public interest or overwhelming industry interest/corruption the government almost never takes it upon itself to regulate minutia like this, the downside is just not worth it unless you think you can pander to some demographic.
Congestion in the lower loop? Rofl. It would be the same without the horses. Hire a guy with a shovel and a rolling trash can to deal with the horse shit.